O wszystkim i o niczym
16 maja 2012, 10:59
Dużo plotek transferowych się ostatnio pojawia, jedną z nich jest przejście van Persiego do City. Szejkowie ponoć chcą wydać na niego 25 baniek a jemu samemu dać tygodniówkę w wysokości nawet 250 tysięcy z kolei Arsenal chce mu dać podwyżkę do połowy tego(mówi się o 130 tysiącach). Ciekawe. Co o tym myślicie?
16 maja 2012, 13:21
England squad for Euro 2012:
Goalkeepers: Joe Hart (Man City), Rob Green (West Ham), John Ruddy (Norwich)
Defenders: Glen Johnson (Liverpool), Phil Jones (Man United), John Terry (Chelsea), Joleon Lescott (Man City), Gary Cahill (Chelsea), Ashley Cole (Chelsea), Leighton Baines (Everton)
Midfielders: Theo Walcott (Arsenal), Stewart Downing (Liverpool), Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal), Steven Gerrard (Liverpool), Gareth Barry (Man City), Frank Lampard (Chelsea), Scott Parker (Tottenham), Ashley Young (Man United), James Milner (Man City)
Forwards: Wayne Rooney (Man United), Danny Welbeck (Man United), Andy Carroll (Liverpool), Jermain Defoe (Tottenham)
Standby players: Jack Butland (Birmingham City), Phil Jagielka (Everton), Jordan Henderson (Liverpool), Adam Johnson (Manchester City), Daniel Sturridge (Chelsea).
Teraz w zależności od preferencji można pośmiać się/albo ubolewać nad kadrą Anglii na Euro:
1. No i gdzie jest "na pewno nie kontuzjowany" członek spisku - Ben Foster? Generalnie ubóstwo Anglików na tej pozycji jest porażające - Hart to klasa światowa, ale reszta? A już miejsce na ławce rezerwowych dla Butlanda (pierwsze słyszę) - dramat
2. Joleon Lescott?
Do kompletu dodałbym Tytusa Bramble'a. Dla nas dobra wiadomość jest taka, że nie będą nam przemęczać Kyle'a Walkera, chłopak spokojnie wyleczy kontuzję i będzie mógł w spokoju przygotować się do kolejnego sezonu.
3. Pomoc jak to pomoc, tragedii nie ma. Szkoda, że jest Parker z przyczyn wymienionych powyżej.
4. W ataku duet Andy Carroll - JD
A w rezerwie Sturridge. Jak już Carroll, to nie lepiej było wziąć Croucha? Ten przynajmniej od czasu do czasu gola strzeli 
Zawsze kibicowałem Anglikom, ale w tym roku ich skład to taki dramat, że generalnie mam na nich wywalone, bo i tak z góry wiadomo, że nic nie osiągną. Ale chyba nawet na Wyspach tym razem jest spokojniej i zdają sobie sprawę z własnej słabości. Na imprezie liczę z kolei na Irlandię. A jako że będą stacjonować w Gdyni (no, formalnie na przedmieściach Gdyni - w Sopocie, ale w Gdyni trenować
), to może będzie okazja zobaczyć ich z bliska.
EDIT: no właśnie mnie natchnęło - pomoc oszczędziłem mimo obecności Stewarta Downinga, ale kurcze kompletnie nie zwróciłem uwagi na jedną rzecz - gdzie do licha jest Aaron Lennon???
Goalkeepers: Joe Hart (Man City), Rob Green (West Ham), John Ruddy (Norwich)
Defenders: Glen Johnson (Liverpool), Phil Jones (Man United), John Terry (Chelsea), Joleon Lescott (Man City), Gary Cahill (Chelsea), Ashley Cole (Chelsea), Leighton Baines (Everton)
Midfielders: Theo Walcott (Arsenal), Stewart Downing (Liverpool), Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal), Steven Gerrard (Liverpool), Gareth Barry (Man City), Frank Lampard (Chelsea), Scott Parker (Tottenham), Ashley Young (Man United), James Milner (Man City)
Forwards: Wayne Rooney (Man United), Danny Welbeck (Man United), Andy Carroll (Liverpool), Jermain Defoe (Tottenham)
Standby players: Jack Butland (Birmingham City), Phil Jagielka (Everton), Jordan Henderson (Liverpool), Adam Johnson (Manchester City), Daniel Sturridge (Chelsea).
Teraz w zależności od preferencji można pośmiać się/albo ubolewać nad kadrą Anglii na Euro:
1. No i gdzie jest "na pewno nie kontuzjowany" członek spisku - Ben Foster? Generalnie ubóstwo Anglików na tej pozycji jest porażające - Hart to klasa światowa, ale reszta? A już miejsce na ławce rezerwowych dla Butlanda (pierwsze słyszę) - dramat
2. Joleon Lescott?
3. Pomoc jak to pomoc, tragedii nie ma. Szkoda, że jest Parker z przyczyn wymienionych powyżej.
4. W ataku duet Andy Carroll - JD
Zawsze kibicowałem Anglikom, ale w tym roku ich skład to taki dramat, że generalnie mam na nich wywalone, bo i tak z góry wiadomo, że nic nie osiągną. Ale chyba nawet na Wyspach tym razem jest spokojniej i zdają sobie sprawę z własnej słabości. Na imprezie liczę z kolei na Irlandię. A jako że będą stacjonować w Gdyni (no, formalnie na przedmieściach Gdyni - w Sopocie, ale w Gdyni trenować
EDIT: no właśnie mnie natchnęło - pomoc oszczędziłem mimo obecności Stewarta Downinga, ale kurcze kompletnie nie zwróciłem uwagi na jedną rzecz - gdzie do licha jest Aaron Lennon???
16 maja 2012, 13:33
Nie wiem czym kierował się Hodgson biorąc na Euro Downinga, który miał słabiutki sezon. Za to nie zabrał świetnego Richardsa czy choćby Lennona. No coż ja się cieszę że chociaż Parker i Defoe się załapali, dobrze popatrzeć na swoich i trochę im pokibicować.
Słyszałem, że ustalono już półfinał na Anglia-Holandia i wygraną wyspiarzy 2:0. Także może mimo składu nie będzie dramatu
Słyszałem, że ustalono już półfinał na Anglia-Holandia i wygraną wyspiarzy 2:0. Także może mimo składu nie będzie dramatu
16 maja 2012, 14:14
Po tym sezonie zdecydowanie wolałbym postawić na Chamberlain niż na Lenonka, który cały seozn miał taki ,że nie zdąrzył odpalić. A co do napadziorów to bym tak nie podchodził jak HB. Jak dla mnie będzie WElbeck z Rooneyem i to może akurat skutkować zajebiście.
Ogólnie uważam ,że skład wybrał fajny. Na pewno zrównoważony, czego ostatnio nie dalo się powiedzieć po wyborach SGEriksona i FCapello. Trochę mnie martwi tylko pomoc. Z jednej strony nazwiska są, ale żeby nie było znowu kotleta odgrzewanego ,zę siezgrać nie będą potrafiły.
Ogólnie uważam ,że skład wybrał fajny. Na pewno zrównoważony, czego ostatnio nie dalo się powiedzieć po wyborach SGEriksona i FCapello. Trochę mnie martwi tylko pomoc. Z jednej strony nazwiska są, ale żeby nie było znowu kotleta odgrzewanego ,zę siezgrać nie będą potrafiły.
16 maja 2012, 14:18
Marcus, oczywiscie ze pierwszy sklad to Rooney, a drugi napastnik Welbeck - bardziej chodzilo mi o dobor pary rezerwowych. Carroll? Mimo wszystko JD?
Bida z nedza
Bida z nedza
16 maja 2012, 14:38
Hart to nr 1 tu tak silni nie byl;i od lat. Obrona CFC jakkolwiek by tego nie ułożyć. Atak UTD. Ja nawet nie jestem pewny czy to nie będzie granie 1 wysuniętym plus ewentualnie podwieszenie się younga?? Jak na mój gust to , chyba trochę tez brak czasu, postawil na klubowe zgranie, bez wynalzaków. Co do tego Carrola i JD to moim zdaniem oni są, ale ich rola będzie marginalna. Czasamiobstawia się kogoś i daje mu do ewentualnego zmienienia kogoś w teorii sporo słabszego. To jest dosyć sprytne zagranie. Jak ten ktoś zagra super to się mówi, że miało się nosa, a jak nie to ,ze się tamtemu budowało komfort bo na ławce nikt nie czekal na jego potknięcie
Wbrew pozorą trochę mnie martwi pomoc, bo ani Lampard (w przyzwoitej jest obecnie formie) , ani tym bardziej SG nie sądzę ,że by coś wielkiego zagrali. Do tego jeszcze Barry... to już było parę ładnych razy i dupa blada. Generalnie jednak nie jest źle.
16 maja 2012, 15:46
http://www.polskieradio.pl/43/265/Artykul/605692,Rosyjski-szpieg-podglada-kadre-Smudy
hahahaha - Roma daje radę
hahahaha - Roma daje radę
16 maja 2012, 19:53
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11669/7760662/Liverpool-axe-Dalglish
Gdzie twoje berło, berło i korona...(żarcik
). King Kenny zdetronizowany
Gdzie twoje berło, berło i korona...(żarcik
16 maja 2012, 20:43
tuczi napisał(a):http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11669/7760662/Liverpool-axe-Dalglish
Gdzie twoje berło, berło i korona...(żarcik). King Kenny zdetronizowany
Dla nas to bardzo zły omen.
16 maja 2012, 20:44
przeglądałem sobie neta i wpadłem na taką stronkę
http://pilkasklep.pl/manufacturer.php?id_manufacturer=3
trochę w to nie wierzę, żeby koszulka Spurs była za 90 zł,ale jeszcze bardziej nie chcę mi się wierzyć w f50 za 180 zł...
fakt, faktem jak ktoś nie ma koszulki Tottenhamu a chciały takową posiadać to można sobie zamówić
)
http://pilkasklep.pl/manufacturer.php?id_manufacturer=3
trochę w to nie wierzę, żeby koszulka Spurs była za 90 zł,ale jeszcze bardziej nie chcę mi się wierzyć w f50 za 180 zł...
fakt, faktem jak ktoś nie ma koszulki Tottenhamu a chciały takową posiadać to można sobie zamówić
16 maja 2012, 21:34
Masz rację Marcus. Tak jak chcieliśmy aby na Stamford jak najdłużej został AVB, tak również wymarzony byłby Kenny na Anfield w kolejnym sezonie
. Cóż, wszystko przemija
16 maja 2012, 22:15
tomeklechia17 napisał(a):przeglądałem sobie neta i wpadłem na taką stronkę
http://pilkasklep.pl/manufacturer.php?id_manufacturer=3
trochę w to nie wierzę, żeby koszulka Spurs była za 90 zł,ale jeszcze bardziej nie chcę mi się wierzyć w f50 za 180 zł...
fakt, faktem jak ktoś nie ma koszulki Tottenhamu a chciały takową posiadać to można sobie zamówić)
Ale dlaczego to takie nierealne. Sezon się już skończył, lada dzień pojawi się nowy model, a te to ostatnie Pumy na najbliższych kilka lat. To samo z modelami na Euro, przecież po turnieju zrobią nowe.
17 maja 2012, 08:42
no to spójrzcie na adres siedziby firmy z tej strony. Hong Kong? spoko
17 maja 2012, 10:38
po co majtki przez głowe zdejmować. W Spurs Shopie jest teraz 50% off na wszystkie koszulki.
17 maja 2012, 12:00
To prawda, nawet ja kupilem w koncu meczowke, pierwsza od nie pamietam ilu lat - moja ostatnia to Kappa z pierwszego sezonu kontraktu (plus Kappa czarno-niebieska, ale ta byla z grzebola
) Choc teraz to juz pewnie przebrane sa i do wyboru albo malutkie, albo bardzo duze, ale sprobowac warto
17 maja 2012, 19:32
Dodałbym Raku do tego powyższego mecz QPR-Chelsea....ManCity-QPR to mecz w którym nie powiesz, że faktycznie przekręcony, ale ten na Loftus Road był jak najbardziej...
17 maja 2012, 19:57
raku napisał(a):
Dla mnie bezwzględnie muły z analami i city najbardziej zaskakujące.Najbardziej emocjonujące to chyba CFC-Anale. Kolejność wydaje mi się raczej podyktowana datą. Ciężko 4:4 na OT uznać za jakiś mega mecz. Fajny, emocnonujący, ale też raczej wyjątkowo nierówny. Zaskakujące, że 2 razy pojawiło isę BLackburn. Totalnie przecież nijaka drużyna
18 maja 2012, 12:55
http://www.topspurs.com/jmdview.htm - tradycyjnie świetny komentarz Jima Duggana, tym razem podsumowanie sezonu. Warto przeczytać od początku do końca, ale wyłuskałem co najciekawsze dla tych, którzy nie lubią/nie mają czasu przeczytać wszystkiego.
" From my own comments, very much an on target performance with the extra goals turning a few of those draws from last season into wins. Not quite enough for 3rd and above Arsenal but a title challenge into the new year (first time since 87) and winning more than half the games is a good return. If there was one game which frustrated me it was not being able to turn over a crap Villa side last week even after going a goal behind and down to 10 . That really was a great opportunity, the rest of it I can deal with as the ebbs and flows of the season, even the home draws with Wolves, collapses at Arsenal etc"
"Here come the topspurs numbers. In the 20 seasons of 38 games, Spurs best two seasons have been 2009/10 and 2011/12 with 70 & 69 points respectively … both of which have earned 4th place despite ‘only’ 63 points being enough for 3rd place back in 1989/90. Also the 09/10 & 11/12 seasons have seen record goals scored 67 & 66 with a very healthy goal difference of 26/27. I love goal difference as a measure of teams real ability. Every game carries 3 points whether it’s a jammy 1-0 or a masterful hammering and the goal difference adds a rubber stamp of quality . When Spurs nearly grabbed 4th in 2006, the excellent season had only a +15 goal difference which shows Spurs can operate at a higher level (and that 3rd place in 1990 was only +12) … and of course there were plenty others with a lot lot worse including -10 after a season of Pleat in 2004"
"So the Harry era is 4th, 5th, 4th, last eight of champions league, League Cup final, 2 FA Cup semi finals – a marvelous achievement on relatively modest resources compared to the competition and when set into the historical context of the club. The first time since 1965 for three consecutive top five finishes. It may not carry any medals, but its a mini golden age in its own right. A few years ago, I’d have taken a cup win over that but with age and an appreciation of the EPL worldwide, seeing Spurs in the top echelon of the best league in the world is as good as it gets without silverware."
"What can Spurs do to improve upon this generational high to challenge at the top table? I think the club is running as fast as it can to keep where we are but that may not be good enough to keep even this current level over the next few seasons. That is not accepting what Spurs have done as some great achievement, but its recognizing it for what it is relative to the competition and history of the club. I’d like Spurs to do better but cant see where the extra 20 points is going to come from under the current set up."
"Of the rest of the EPL, congratulations to Manchester City who were head and shoulders above everyone else this season and although they left it late, were very worthy winners and with the money behind them, look here to stay. Manchester United have somehow managed to keep up the league despite never seeming to play well. It is astonishing they got 89 points imvho. The goons are the goons, not quite as good as they were but determined c*nts in the face of adversity which is a hallmark of the character of their club."
"A while ago the twattish majority in Newcastle hated all the ‘Southerners’ at their club and no doubt resent Ashley and Pardew despite their 5th place finish. Their luck will run out soon into the new season. Chelsea were poor for most of the season and lucky for the rest. We have to hope that this runs out in the CL final. Perhaps UEFA will fiddle it to keep the Germans happy as they bail everyone else out in Europe
"
"Of the rest, Everton and Martin Jol’s Fulham were ahead of Liverpool who were the most awful team of the season with their conduct and under performance per resources. Jol’s delivery at Fulham after a sticky start is another endorsement of his ability to squeeze the most out of what he has while retaining that nagging doubt about him being able to do much more . They were the best of the rest and its hard to see any of them stepping up to the top five. The rest of the league are there to make up the numbers any of whom could be relegated next seasons"
"Looking to the summer, Spurs have to attract the best players under the sustainable funding regime/wages. The last three seasons have been remarkably consistent but I don’t think with what we have finished with this season, it could turn around another 69 point season next year, let alone improve upon it and some important players need to be signed.
Spurs do business on a bargain and bargains tend to occur at the end of the transfer window, which unfortunately is after 2 or 3 games of the new season. A series of top recent finishes and a London location for the WAGS should help. "
"Looking at the squad:
Freidel was/is an excellent buy but with his age, you’d think Spurs will be in the market over the next 12 months for a good keeper – preferably a foreign one as the English bunch look ropey.
Walker and BAE were excellent at full back but some cover always useful but the real issue is at centre back where old Ledley is looking vulnerable, Gallas has been good but won’t go on forever and Dawson has yet to come back from another injury. Spurs need a couple of new names to go with the emerging Kaboul who looks the real deal.
Parker and Sandro in the middle and Bale and Lennon on the wings give Spurs a great midfield but it drops off if any of those are injured or suspended. Modric doesn’t do it for me but obviously is important in the manager’s plans (and for most of the fans) and VdV is at Spurs rather than somewhere higher where his ability deserves because his talent is compromised at the very top level . Of all the players in the team, Bale is the only match winner at the very top level and is the one Levy needs to have at Spurs next season – but only if his mind is correct and he wants to play for the team on the left where the manager picks him.
Up front Spurs need a complete overhaul. Adebayor will probably go back to City unless they want to give him away to Spurs and Defoe is good but not great. There are bargains out there as Newcastle have found with Cisse and this needs to be the area that Spurs concentrate their resources – both for first teamers an backup, esp if it’s the poisoned chalice of the UEFA Cup."
"And the manager! Before Spurs picked up 10 of the last 12 points and the England job was on offer, it was assumed that this was it from Redknapp but now Spurs have been left with him. Based upon what he has done for Spurs – 2 pts from 8 games to the CL q/f etc, it seems astonishing that it is being discussed at all, but the Spurs board have a decision to make. If they thought Jol had run out of ideas at the end of 2007 season after three years, is Harry any safer? The answer is probably yes, mostly as they don’t have the balls to change manager at this stage but like every aspect of the club, is there a chance to upgrade, it should be taken – and upgrading is the key word as it has to be someone with credentials at working miracles at Spurs level of funding. Mourinho would be number 1 choice but how would Spurs finance his requests? And aside from him, is there anyone else who is really that much better than Harry"
"Where do Spurs go from here? Keep running as hard as we can and lets hope something magical happens – until then, its worth appreciating, even enjoying from time to time, what we have rather than worrying about what we haven’t. "
" From my own comments, very much an on target performance with the extra goals turning a few of those draws from last season into wins. Not quite enough for 3rd and above Arsenal but a title challenge into the new year (first time since 87) and winning more than half the games is a good return. If there was one game which frustrated me it was not being able to turn over a crap Villa side last week even after going a goal behind and down to 10 . That really was a great opportunity, the rest of it I can deal with as the ebbs and flows of the season, even the home draws with Wolves, collapses at Arsenal etc"
"Here come the topspurs numbers. In the 20 seasons of 38 games, Spurs best two seasons have been 2009/10 and 2011/12 with 70 & 69 points respectively … both of which have earned 4th place despite ‘only’ 63 points being enough for 3rd place back in 1989/90. Also the 09/10 & 11/12 seasons have seen record goals scored 67 & 66 with a very healthy goal difference of 26/27. I love goal difference as a measure of teams real ability. Every game carries 3 points whether it’s a jammy 1-0 or a masterful hammering and the goal difference adds a rubber stamp of quality . When Spurs nearly grabbed 4th in 2006, the excellent season had only a +15 goal difference which shows Spurs can operate at a higher level (and that 3rd place in 1990 was only +12) … and of course there were plenty others with a lot lot worse including -10 after a season of Pleat in 2004"
"So the Harry era is 4th, 5th, 4th, last eight of champions league, League Cup final, 2 FA Cup semi finals – a marvelous achievement on relatively modest resources compared to the competition and when set into the historical context of the club. The first time since 1965 for three consecutive top five finishes. It may not carry any medals, but its a mini golden age in its own right. A few years ago, I’d have taken a cup win over that but with age and an appreciation of the EPL worldwide, seeing Spurs in the top echelon of the best league in the world is as good as it gets without silverware."
"What can Spurs do to improve upon this generational high to challenge at the top table? I think the club is running as fast as it can to keep where we are but that may not be good enough to keep even this current level over the next few seasons. That is not accepting what Spurs have done as some great achievement, but its recognizing it for what it is relative to the competition and history of the club. I’d like Spurs to do better but cant see where the extra 20 points is going to come from under the current set up."
"Of the rest of the EPL, congratulations to Manchester City who were head and shoulders above everyone else this season and although they left it late, were very worthy winners and with the money behind them, look here to stay. Manchester United have somehow managed to keep up the league despite never seeming to play well. It is astonishing they got 89 points imvho. The goons are the goons, not quite as good as they were but determined c*nts in the face of adversity which is a hallmark of the character of their club."
"A while ago the twattish majority in Newcastle hated all the ‘Southerners’ at their club and no doubt resent Ashley and Pardew despite their 5th place finish. Their luck will run out soon into the new season. Chelsea were poor for most of the season and lucky for the rest. We have to hope that this runs out in the CL final. Perhaps UEFA will fiddle it to keep the Germans happy as they bail everyone else out in Europe
"Of the rest, Everton and Martin Jol’s Fulham were ahead of Liverpool who were the most awful team of the season with their conduct and under performance per resources. Jol’s delivery at Fulham after a sticky start is another endorsement of his ability to squeeze the most out of what he has while retaining that nagging doubt about him being able to do much more . They were the best of the rest and its hard to see any of them stepping up to the top five. The rest of the league are there to make up the numbers any of whom could be relegated next seasons"
"Looking to the summer, Spurs have to attract the best players under the sustainable funding regime/wages. The last three seasons have been remarkably consistent but I don’t think with what we have finished with this season, it could turn around another 69 point season next year, let alone improve upon it and some important players need to be signed.
Spurs do business on a bargain and bargains tend to occur at the end of the transfer window, which unfortunately is after 2 or 3 games of the new season. A series of top recent finishes and a London location for the WAGS should help. "
"Looking at the squad:
Freidel was/is an excellent buy but with his age, you’d think Spurs will be in the market over the next 12 months for a good keeper – preferably a foreign one as the English bunch look ropey.
Walker and BAE were excellent at full back but some cover always useful but the real issue is at centre back where old Ledley is looking vulnerable, Gallas has been good but won’t go on forever and Dawson has yet to come back from another injury. Spurs need a couple of new names to go with the emerging Kaboul who looks the real deal.
Parker and Sandro in the middle and Bale and Lennon on the wings give Spurs a great midfield but it drops off if any of those are injured or suspended. Modric doesn’t do it for me but obviously is important in the manager’s plans (and for most of the fans) and VdV is at Spurs rather than somewhere higher where his ability deserves because his talent is compromised at the very top level . Of all the players in the team, Bale is the only match winner at the very top level and is the one Levy needs to have at Spurs next season – but only if his mind is correct and he wants to play for the team on the left where the manager picks him.
Up front Spurs need a complete overhaul. Adebayor will probably go back to City unless they want to give him away to Spurs and Defoe is good but not great. There are bargains out there as Newcastle have found with Cisse and this needs to be the area that Spurs concentrate their resources – both for first teamers an backup, esp if it’s the poisoned chalice of the UEFA Cup."
"And the manager! Before Spurs picked up 10 of the last 12 points and the England job was on offer, it was assumed that this was it from Redknapp but now Spurs have been left with him. Based upon what he has done for Spurs – 2 pts from 8 games to the CL q/f etc, it seems astonishing that it is being discussed at all, but the Spurs board have a decision to make. If they thought Jol had run out of ideas at the end of 2007 season after three years, is Harry any safer? The answer is probably yes, mostly as they don’t have the balls to change manager at this stage but like every aspect of the club, is there a chance to upgrade, it should be taken – and upgrading is the key word as it has to be someone with credentials at working miracles at Spurs level of funding. Mourinho would be number 1 choice but how would Spurs finance his requests? And aside from him, is there anyone else who is really that much better than Harry"
"Where do Spurs go from here? Keep running as hard as we can and lets hope something magical happens – until then, its worth appreciating, even enjoying from time to time, what we have rather than worrying about what we haven’t. "
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